Working SO2R with Flexradio’s 6600M, B26 RF2K+ amplifier kit, 4O3A’s 1 AMP 2 Radio switch and N1MM+ contest logger

I am proud owner of a Flex 6600M and a RF2K+ kit amplifier. Both work really well together.

Flexradio 6600M
RF2K+ amplifier

The radio is built with SO2R in mind (2 ANT outputs, receive filters for contesting bands). The amplifier came in form of a kit and produces legal limit of power on all bands below 6 m. Putting the amp together was easy and took me about 1 day. I like the fact that the amp can be tucked away and can be fully remote controlled from any computer device on the network.

After working for a few days with the new toys, I realized that I could use the amp for both slices by swapping ANT1 and ANT2 on the radio and switching my 6 x 2 remote antenna switch appropriately. This worked great, however, was cumbersome to do during a contest. Time-consuming enough that it pretty much prevented a semi-competitive contest entrance. For SO2R and in High Power category, you want to run with high power and also do S&P with high power. Or even run on two bands with high power. My next question was: Do I really need 2 amps for this?

Turns out, the answer is NO. I found this neat antenna switch called “1 AMP 2 radio switch” and made by 4O3A. That allows not only to share one antenna with 2 radios, but I can share one amplifier with 2 radios/VFOs.

1 AMP 2 radio switch by 4O3A
Diagram from 4O3A’s website

For more details, read on below.

And by the way, the should be doable with any other CAT controllable radios and amplifiers. No affiliation to any manufacturer referenced in this blog.

Understanding the equipment better

Before putting this all together, I had to learn and understand more about PTT, PTT lead times and how it relates to all three pieces of equipment at play. Here are a few of my notes:

RF2K+ kit

  • If the amp has to switch band relays (transmission about to occur on a different band), it takes about 15 ms.
  • PTT lead time before RF is not needed by the amplifier, its likely more needed by transceivers and antenna switches. A “good-citizen” value would be maybe 10ms.

The amplifier has multiple rig control modes. I have played with CAT, UDP and Universal.

Universal rig control mode:

  • Basically, this is without any rig control and have the amplifier figure everything out.
  • In this mode, the amp runs a comprehensive RF sensing routine, that takes up to 15 ms.
  • With a PTT lead time of 10 ms it would take <= 40 ms (10 + 15 + 15) till High power goes out, and <= 30 ms would be lost of the signal.

UDP/CAT:

  • The amplifier can receive UDP packets that tell it what frequency. This is very similar to a simple Kenwood-style CAT protocol that can also be used.
  • If the amp is in CAT or UDP mode, it does a short RF sensing routine, that takes about 3-5 ms.
  • With a PTT lead time of 10 ms it would take 13-15 ms (10 + 3-5) till High power goes out, and 3-5 ms would be lost of the signal.

1 AMP 2 Radio switch

  • This is a fairly simple device. The main consideration is how long the relays take to switch. I am hoping 10 ms is enough.

Experimenting

Rig control mode
My initial thought was to use CAT. Hooking this all up was a breeze with a null modem cable between 6600M and the RF2K+. The 6600M provides a way to use CAT control for the slice with TX focus. That’s exactly what I needed and the switching works correctly, but unfortunately not 100% of the time…

Second test was with UDP. UDP is a little harder, as N1MM+ provides UDP packets for both EntryWindows every couple of seconds. So, I had to build a small translator (in N1MM+ software) to only send the UDP packet for the TX active slice. That also worked, and similarly as the CAT control. Most of the time only…

The last option was to use Universal mode. Have no rig control and just have the amp do the work. Even though I thought this would be a brute-force method and not advisable, it turned out to be very reliable. The amp does not miss a beat during dueling CQ and also during breaking into a running CQ on radio 1 by hitting F4 (my call) on the other radio. Reliability is a must, so I considered going with this approach.

But what about the loss of the signal during the leading few milliseconds? With the help of over the air tests with N2IC it turned out that it is actually not a big deal. I sent leading Vs (starts with a dit) at 36 word per minute. The slight cut off of the signal is very small and almost not noticeable on the receiving end.

CW at 36 wpm with RF sensing and band switch in Universal mode

So, why is it not as reliable with CAT or UDP? I can only guess. I think it may be possible that the amplifier needs more time to process these control signals. I am fairly certain that I was able to send the UDP messages very fast, so it may be either network related or slowness of the amp. At this point I am not sure, but will contact the maker of the amp.

Temperature
What does it do to the amplifier’s temperature, if used in SO2R mode in duelling CQ mode? Well, it gets a little hotter. Different bands need different amount of bias current and therefore produce different amount of temperatures. I found, when 20 m band was involved and running 1.5 kW on both bands, I was sometimes reaching the maximum temperature that is programmed into the amp to switch from Operate to Standby, 72 degrees Celsius. I had the amplifier built in a way that favors the quietness of the fans (12 V fan drive). I have now reconfigured this and switched the fans to run in the 15 V mode, and have yet to reach the limit. I have to watch this a little bit in the future and will report back if I find any other issues. Off course the fans are now a little louder, but only under extremely high duty cycle. This should also help with doing digital modes or long rag chews in SSB on 20 m.

Cross-band RFI
Well, it turns out that I need to work on some RFI suppression. Apart from the receive filters built into the 6600M, I have no other band pass filters. Next project to tackle…

Summary

Here is a list of all settings that I found work best for my equipment.

N1MM+:

    • CAT for Slice A and B: PTT delay 10 ms
    • CAT for WinKey: PTT delay 10 ms
    • WinKey: Lead time: 1, Hang time: 2.00

6600M:

  • TX profile: TX delay 10 ms
  • TX profile slice A: RCA TX1: Enabled
  • TX profile slice B: RCA TX2: Enabled
  • Breakin: Enabled
  • CW sidetone: Off
  • CW delay: 0

RF2K+:

  • None. Just use Universal

Special thanks to DH3NAB (maker of the RF2K+), K8UT, N7HQ and N2IC for discussions, insights and over-the-air tests.

2 Replies to “Working SO2R with Flexradio’s 6600M, B26 RF2K+ amplifier kit, 4O3A’s 1 AMP 2 Radio switch and N1MM+ contest logger”

  1. Hi Andy,

    Nice article. Did you do something special with the PTT to Amp? I am trying to do the same (also RF2K+ and 1A2R) but when given PTT the 1A2R hangs (red and green light stays on) so the second TX can never take over. You had the same?

    1. Hi,
      I did not see this here. PTT out is only on when either of the two PTTs from the radio is on. Can you verify for sure that the individual PTTs functions properly? It sounds like it hangs. The box has a “first come wins” implemented, so if the first PTT hangs, the 2nd cannot take over…

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